hello good to
see right so uh you were booked to come
on the show quite a while quite a while
ago but what a night I guess
coincidentally for you to be on what's
your reaction to what our first minister
in Northern Ireland has said in terms of
his support for pastor McConnell well I
felt like I was on the set of
Mississippi Burning I felt like Jean
Hackman in the barber shop in fact your
staff had to hold me back from coming on
and confronting the kind of
mindless ignorant bigotry to which your
audience has just been treated and I
really don't think you should
underestimate just how grotesque that
first item was a YouTube classic and not
in a good way this will travel he has
the support of our first Minister that
that is the the point you see now the D
have just one second the dup have been
in touch with this tonight to say that
uh under no circumstances has the the
first Minister said that he does not
trust all Muslims and the DP want to
make that very clear they just haven't
taken the opportunity to come in here
and make it clear there was an open seat
for them where on Earth are they well
you see otherwise it would just be the
case of a embarrassingly foolish old man
who thinks that Muslims follow sh ra law
uh a word that he mispronounced at least
11 times he's got a lot of support well
otherwise it would just be that it's the
fact that powerful people here in this
government Worship in his ministry every
Sunday and that the first minister no
less and I heard the car crash interview
Peter Robinson gave today to the Irish
news he gave that interview to the Irish
news there is no point saying that in no
circumstances does he not trust Muslims
I heard him say three times a magic no
he spelled out he spelled out
circumstances in which he would not
trust Muslims he would for example trust
a Muslim to go to the shop for him yes
he would he around the house Muslims to
go to Every to do other everyday tasks
for them yes yes that was very kind of
them but the offense that that will have
he didn't say everyday task for him he
said everyday tasks and every every life
if you any I mean you said it was on
channel 4 news tonight it's on Al jazer
news this is traveling like wildfire
across the Muslim world that the first
minister of this place endorsed that man
who said and you were shy he defended
him he didn't Endor everything he said
he defended him well he defended him so
resolutely that you cannot now slip six
pence between that Pastor and Peter
Robinson that's how it will be seen in
the world so best not go looking for any
investment from the Islamic World
anytime soon best not go looking for any
tourists who don't want to visit the set
of Mississippi Burning anytime soon this
is madness this shows this place as a
400y old throwback I mean would happen
if David Cameron said something similar
already out if any minister or any
Shadow minister
in Britain had said what Peter Robinson
said today he would already have
resigned or been forced so hold on a
second so a first Minister isn't allowed
anymore some people might admire him
because he has stood up and he has
defended a man under pressure he's
defended a man who you don't know who I
don't know who he has known for 20 years
I'll tell you what he's also defended
something that you share with him he's
defended Free Speech well it's not
you're a big advocate of free speech not
hate speech I'm not this past said
Muslims py had speake the police haven't
even contacted them well that speaks
volumes too this Pastor said Muslims
were the spawn of the devil do you get
that the spawn of the devil the faith he
didn't say Muslims he said the faith he
said Islam Islamic faith that's a
distinction with a difference well
people from different religions AR
religion all the time you think the
Bangladeshi shopkeeper or the Pakistani
doctor in here in Bel past or elsewhere
here in the north of Ireland makes that
distinction he believed that they were
talking about him not their faith
abstractly and if something happens now
if a hear on the head of any of the
4,000 Muslims here is now harmed who do
you think will be blamed and how big a
story do you think that that will be and
your Robinson our first m is made a
clear he does not support violence
well he's made it very clear that's
somewhat problematic in itself but I
don't want to intrude on Irish political
matters uh in this discussion he had the
opportunity to finish this story today
he could have said actually I don't
agree with the words that the pastor
used but he's a decent man I've known
him for 20 years but I would never have
used that language he could have done
that is there not an issue with the
Islamic faith George is there not an
issue that that that that some people
who adhere to an interpretation of
sharia law support a woman in Sudan
being given a hundred lies and executed
because she's committed adultery is that
not an issue we should denounce it but
it happened in Sudan it has nothing to
do with the Muslims in Britain can you
tell me there would be no Muslims in
Britain who would follow Sharia law who
would support that I I know of no muslim
and I represent tens of thousands of
them in Parliament there's no is I know
of no muslim I defy you to produce one
and there no issue of Islamic extremism
in Britain oh there is n there is and
this man you had sitting here is one of
the leading men who condemns it and I
condemn it there is Islamic extremism do
you think the pastor's words and
Robinson's support of them will help or
hinder Islamic extremism in Britain will
it make people more fanatic more angry
or less fanatic and less angry this was
a grossly irresponsible interview Peter
Robinson gave this morning he set fire
to an issue that would have actually
died out would have just been put down
to another crackpot Pastor in Northern
Ireland just about you and your respect
party that's that's that's what would
been
done that's that's what have been done
and and by the way about you and your
respect party party courting the Muslim
vote is that what's going on here listen
I'm of Irish Catholic background I used
to hear these pastors I don't even know
if you're a Muslim or not I don't know
are you I don't know say it's none of
your business what I am I'm telling you
this that there were plenty of pastors
here used to talk about Catholics in
that language used to call us the spawn
of the devil the Pope the
Antichrist most people in Britain
thought that the north of Island was
getting away from all that thought that
the peace process was bringing you into
the Cent the rest of us are all in Peter
Robinson just tore all that up today I'm
telling you that's what happened wow
this story could go away couldn't it
well it was on British national news
tonight I'm telling you it's on the news
all over the Muslim world and if we are
unlucky they'll be clipping the Nolan
show right now for tomorrow night's news
in here's someone talking about Shar law
Shar law he doesn't even know know the
words that he's denouncing he knows
nothing about the religion he's smearing
in such a comprehensive way and that
dignified young man that sat opposite
him a hero why do you think he has so
many supporters then well that's the
worrying thing how many is that not a
democracy well I think the decent
Christian Protestant people should
disassociate themselves wholesale and
quickly from this fanatic that you had
on here guy here go ahead yeah go ahead
great Shir go ahead where do we get a
mic to you I'm going a mic to you what
I'd like to say to George is your scarm
monging okay the mom was in his own
church in his own assembly for 40 years
teaching people raising them up for
protection for their own family to raise
up family in a right order to respect
every person that's why he's respected
on his church the media come in and and
listen to what he was saying on the
platform then he manipulated it and
brought him out into the world and
turned around and told him he was
telling people he didn't trust them
trust no we didn't we didn't hold on a
listen I'm sorry you listen the media
didn't tell them anything the media
asked him by way media manipulated the
media manipulated everything he said
talking in context of a theological
sermon can we talk can we talk rather
than just shouting over each other one
second audience audience second up for
the hit Christians and I'm telling you
now the Christians are starting to stand
up we're not having it no more right
okay that's as simple as that
right and so do do do do you trust do
you mistrust all Muslims trust is built
through known people right hold on hold
on listen so how do you trust Pastor
mccon why don't you go to his church for
6 months then come out and tell me he's
a bigot he's not a bot he's a man of God
who's turned around and brought
Catholics and Protestants to Gallia for
40 years George is a skarm monger
everywhere he goes he wants media
attention he wants to turn around get
his face on TV he's a stonger and that's
all he's here doing away back to Britain
thank you very much
if as far as uh as as far as I can see
there's only one person shouting here
and it's you you can of course reply to
that the mic gone the mic's gone well go
ahead there was a rather disturbing
number of people who found that
contribution worth applauding uh as
they're entitled to do uh indeed but
it's still disturbing if it's not
disturbing to you it's certainly
disturbing to me the media did nothing
in this story he wasn't just speaking in
his church his sermons are online to the
world yes and and his words were not man
ulated who you going to believe me or
the evidence of your own
eyes your own eyes your own eyes hold on
the M look we can't hear you we can't
hear
you right you need to you need to let
George finish you need to let George
finish thank you go ahead George keep
going go ahead George who are you going
to believe me or the evidence of your
own eyes and your own ears you saw and
heard what he said he praised Enoch
Powell he said that pow had been right
he said that Islam was the spawn of the
devil he said that he didn't trust
Muslims he didn't say he didn't trust
Islam he didn't trust Muslims he said
there were some some say there are some
good Muslims in this country maybe so
but I don't trust them there's young
lady here white white sure go ahead oh
hello um I was just um going to response
to that gentleman's um response there um
he says it was taken out of context
Pastor McConnell's uh views but we
literally just seen him in context in
front of the whole nation saying yes he
does not trust Muslims so it is in
context and and and let's come back
let's come back to the the issue what do
you say to you know some politicians are
pretty M mouth some politicians you know
Peter Robinson made the point today all
of a sudden it's all right to mistrust
all politicians you know hardc come
that's not similar I believe freedom of
speech it is an absolute given right
Peter Robinson standing up for is it not
we have like the problem with Peter
Robinson is that he speaks of authority
and he needs to have like responsibility
in what he says he has a very very
public profile and a platform and he
needs to take responsibility if he has
those views that's his prerogative and
last word to you George what do what do
you think needs to happen now do does
there need to be Clarity from the first
and Deputy first Minister do you think
it's on that scale I think unless Peter
Robinson comprehensively withdraws the
things he said this morning then he must
be deemed not fit for office now I must
tell you I always thought well that's
for the northern Irish public to decide
isn't it not you well it is it is but uh
as far as I know Peter Robinson wants
Northern Ireland to be part of the
United Kingdom as a member of the United
Kingdom Parliament I'm telling you that
the overwhelming view in Britain if not
here in Northern Ireland is that this
man is not fit for office if these are
the kind of things he's going to say
here's my final question because we're
out of time um it may be a case at the
next general election who knows what way
that'll all that'll all turn out but it
may be the case that the conserv atives
that that Cameron would need the dup
support can you see David Cameron taking
Flack no across the water if he aligns
himself or joins up with the dup and
some guys because of how it would be
interpreted or not will it be gone by
then a year down the line well uh a year
will go past uh quickly enough I think
it would quickly come up again uh but
David Cameron's fate is of no interest
to me but the fate of the people here is
of great and familial and historic
interest to me and I just feel very sad
as most people will to hear the kind of
things we've heard tonight and to hear
the Applause that Mr bigot there got
well hold on a
minute hold
on okay we're we're out of time ladies
and Gentlemen please thank our guest
tonight George
Galloway thank you
and off he
goes he's gone already no roll up roll
up Duffy circus is in Belfast this week
but the